Next City Council Meeting on Thursday April 4 at 7pm
IAFF, Inc., for Fiscal Years 2018-2019, 2019-2020, and 2020-2021.
There are no Announcement/Presentations or City Manager Report listed.
- Purchase award for Fuel Card Services. Currently fuel has been delivered to the Public works/Fleet Facility, which is for sale. The City needs an alternate source or arrangement to access fuel during the one-year period it will take to construct the new fueling station at the Public Services Operations Center. After extensive market research, the City plans to implement a fuel card system that will allow the purchase of fuel at any service station in the country. Piggyback/Access Contract – $1 million for 1 year – no option to renew
- Purchase award for Rootzone Mix for Gardens Park baseball compex – Bid Waiver – $132K
- Purchase award for Replacing the 20-year-old clay roof tiles on the Police Station with metal sheet roofing. Piggyback/Access Contract – $415K
- Purchase award for Furniture for Public Services Operations Center – Piggyback/Access Contract – $180K
Public Hearings and Resolutions:
- Ordinance 2,3 2019 and related Resolution 12, 2019 – 2nd reading and adoption – small scale comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning for 2 parcels located on Alt A1A .5 mi south of Hood Rd for Convenience store and gas station, and car-wash/detailing facility
- Ordinance 4, 2019 – 1st reading – Seacoast Utility Authority – Planned Unit Development Rezoning, Site Plan, and Major Conditional Use – “The subject site has been operating as a water treatment plant since 1975 and has been modified several times before and after annexation in 1988. The existing administrative buildings were built in the early 1980s and are no longer meeting the needs of the Seacoast Utility Authority (SUA). As such, SUA is seeking to replace and demolish the existing buildings in the administrative complex, construct additional storage buildings, and enhance the overall functionality of the administrative operations.
- Resolution 23, 2019 – Approving and ratifying a Collective Bargaining Agreement between the City and the Professional Firefighters and Paramedics of Palm Beach County, Local 2928, IAFF, Inc., for Fiscal Years 2018-2019, 2019-2020, and 2020-2021. There are significant salary increases. See details here.
Items for Council Action/Discussion: Appointments to External Boards and Committees
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Next City Council Mtg on Thursday March 7 at 7pm
- First reading Ordinances 2 and 3, 2019 small scale comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning request for parcels at the southeast corner of Florida Boulevard and Alt A1A. The Applicant is proposing to maintain the gas station as developed with modifications to reduce existing non-conformities, demolish the vacant dry-cleaning storefront, and redevelop the southern parcel with a hand car wash facility. The associated Resolution will be voted upon at 2nd reading and approval.
- Resolution 6, 2019 – A Public Private Partnership Agreement with Cressey Sports Properties, LLC, for the Development of an Indoor Training Facility at Gardens Park.
- On August 4, 2018, the City received an unsolicited P3 proposal from Cressey Sports Performance of Jupiter, Florida. The firm proposed the construction and operation of an indoor training facility at Gardens Park, and that this development be considered an integral part of the planned development of the location. The City reviewed the proposal and determined, based on the preliminary analysis, that there was merit to the proposed project…..The City has determined that it is in the best interests of the residents and community to enter into a public-private partnership agreement with Cressey Sports for the development of an Indoor Training Facility at Gardens Park. The City will not have any financial obligations for the design and construction of the Facility, and upon completion of the building, Cressey Sports is required to make regular ground lease and permit fee payments to the City during the term of the Agreement. The Facility shall become the property of the City after 31 years, at which time the initial term of the Agreement will expire
There are no Announcement/Presentations or City Manager Report listed.
- Resolution 5, 2019 – Lease of Golf Turf Equipment for the Sandhill Crane Golf Club from Hector Turf, Inc., and financed through TCF Equipment Finance, a division of TCF National Bank – lease of several items of golf turf equipment from Hector Turf for a total financed amount of $177,846.21, and authorizes the City Manager to act on behalf of the City of Palm Beach Gardens in order to negotiate, enter into, execute, and deliver one or more lease agreements with TCF Equipment Finance.
- Purchase award for Paving of Public Services Operations Center and Adjoining Areas, Piggyback/Access contract valued at $827,334.
- Purchase award for Roof Repairs at Fire-Rescue Station 3 – Piggyback/Access contract valued at $125,100.
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Next City Council Mtg on Feb 7 at 7pm
- Resolution 7, 2019 authorizing the City Manager to negotiate the agreement with Kast Construction to make the modifications to City Hall and the Police Station. The total amount of $7,573.485.00 is within the amount budgeted and approved for this project.
- Resolution 8, 2019 authorizing the City Manager to negotiate with Ahrens Companies for the building of the new Tennis Center Clubhouse. The total project cost is Four Million Three Hundred Fifty-Nine Thousand Nine Hundred Fifty-Eight Dollars ($4,359,958) and the amount is within the amount budgeted and approved for this project.
There are no Announcement/Presentations or City Manager Report listed.
- Besides the above mentioned Resolutions, the remainder of the Ordinances are for 2nd Reading and Adoption of items previously passed 5:0 on First Reading:
- Ordinance 1, 2019 – Budget Amendment
- Ordinance 28/29, 2018 and related Resolution 80, 2018 – Arcadia Gardens age-restricted 55+ independent living facility on RCA Boulevard
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Next City Council Mtg on Jan 10 at 7pm
The next City Council meeting will be on Thursday, January 10 at 7pm. This first meeting of the year has a fairly light agenda front-loaded with 6 Announcements and Presentations including an update on CIP and One Cent Sales Tax Projects. The Consent Agenda includes Resolution 2, 2019 updating the Avenir PCD Plat and a purchase award – piggyback/access contract for Bunker Gear for Fire/Rescue for $89K.
City Manager Report: Nothing listed
Public Hearings and Resolutions (not in order):
- Ordinance 1, 2019 – An amendment to the Fiscal Year 2018/19 budget to adjust fund balance carryovers to actual amounts; re-appropriate amounts committed from the FY 2017/2018 budget for outstanding purchase orders and open projects; and for other purposes. This is done every year – however this is also where ‘interesting’ uses are found for the General Budget Stabilization Reserves, such as a transfer of $1,600,000 from the Budget Stabilization Reserve Account to construct a Fire Training Tower located at the Public Safety Training Center on Richard Road. There is also the comment: “It is important to note that the International Association of Firefighters (IAFF) contract is currently under negotiation and the Police Benevolent Association (PBA) contract will be negotiated in early 2019. The ultimate cost of these agreements could materially affect the balance in the Budget Stabilization Reserve. In addition, the balance in Unassigned Reserves does not reflect any potential settlement cost related to the Sears litigation; any such cost could significantly impact this balance.” Read the details here.
- Resolution 3, 2019 – A request for Site Plan approval for 416 single-family dwelling units within Parcels A-1, A-2, A-3 and A-4 of the Avenir Planned Community Development (PCD). The subject site is approximately 230.49 acres and is located in the southeast portion of the Avenir PCD. Each individual parcel is a separate gated neighborhood with access from Spine Road #4 with separate recreation and open space amenities.
- Resolution 4, 2019 – A request for a Miscellaneous petition to approve building identification signage for the Divosta Towers project within the Gardens Corporate Center Planned Unit Development (PUD). The Gardens Corporate Center is located on the northeast corner of PGA Boulevard (PGA Bypass) and Alternate A1A
- Ordinance 26, 2018 – Second Reading and Adoption of a request for a Voluntary Annexation of two segments of the Northlake Boulevard Rights-of-Way totaling 23.48 acres, more or less, located between Grapeview Boulevard and Avocado Boulevard and between 130th Avenue North and 120th Avenue North west of the Sandhill Crane Municipal Golf Course, from Palm Beach County
Items for Council Action/Discussion:
- None listed
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Next City Council Meeting on Thursday Dec. 6th
The next City Council meeting will be on Thursday, Dec. 6th at 7pm in City Hall. Agenda Highlights: Arcadia Gardens – new 55+ Independent Living Facility on RCA; Alton increases size of Parcel F and decreases community park acreage; Ancient Tree 2.43 Acre Recreation Parcel; Alton and Divosta AIPP proposals; Avenir proposes $10 million payment in lieu of 250 unit workforce housing.
Consent Agenda includes:
- Resolution 70, 2018 – Three-year GIS Enterprise Agreement under its Small Enterprises Program for counties and municipal governments at a cost of $45,800 per year, with a total cost to the City of $137,400.
- Resolution 83/84 2018 – Providing a new fee schedule for bond issuance and approving the issuance of revenue bonds by the Capital Trust Agency for the Franklin Academy.
- Purchase award: Lease of Front-End Loader, Piggyback/Access contract for 3 years, no renewal for $108K
- Purchase award: Retrofit Sports Field Lighting at Plant Drive Park, Piggyback/Access contract for $133K
- Purchase award: Electric Vehicle Charging Stations – Piggyback/Access contract for 5 years for $350K
- Purchase award: Two new “Jaws of Life” extrication hydraulic cutters that will replace units that have reached the end of their useful life.- Piggyback/Access contract for $78K
- Purchase award: Supply and Install Shop Equipment in Vehicle Maintenance Bays – Openly competed – $132K
City Manager Report: Nothing listed
Public Hearings and Resolutions (not in order):
- Ordinance 26, 2018 – First reading – Voluntary Annexation of two segments of the Northlake Boulevard Rights-of-Way totaling 23.48 acres. Palm Beach County owns the segments and consented to annex them into the City through an lnterlocal Agreement.
- Ordinance 28/29, 2018 – First reading – Arcadia Gardens – land use designation change from Commercial to Residential High, and rezoning to allow the development of a 326-bed/163-unit Independent Living Facility (ILF) within two buildings on RCA Boulevard approximately 500 feet east of Alternate A1A.
- Resolutions 72/73, 2018 – Alton Parcel F – PCD and site plan amendments – The Applicant is modifying the Parcel F acreage back to slightly above the parcel’s original size, revising the configuration of the Master Plan drawing for Parcel F, Phase II, making minor acreage adjustments accordingly, and revising the 8.44-acre City park to be 4.49 acres.
- Resolution 78, 2018 – Ancient Tree – Pulte Home Company, LLC, is requesting approval of the 2.43-acre recreation parcel site plan, as required by Condition of Approval No. 4 of Resolution 76, 2016. The Applicant is also requesting minor modifications to certain Conditions of Approval and site and landscape plan changes.
- Resolution 85, 2018 – Alton Town Center Art in Public Places (AIPP) artwork proposals
- Resolution 86, 2018 – Divosta Towers (fka Gardens Corporate Center) Art in Public Places (AIPP) – 2 waterwall fountains proposal
- Resolutions 87/81, 2018 – Avenir – Specifically, Conditions of Approval 37(c) and 63 of Resolution 4, 2016 address workforce housing within the Avenir PCD. Condition of Approval 63 required that 250 multifamily rental units be provided within the Town Center District. A minimum of 50 percent shall be provided at a maximum rental rate of 60 percent of the Area Median Income (AMI), and the other 50 percent shall be restricted to a maximum rental rate of 120 percent of the AMI. The Workforce Housing Payment Agreement specifies that in lieu of the workforce housing a payment of $10 million be made to the City: $5,000,000 will be used toward a comprehensive workforce housing program, and $5,000,000 will be used for improvements at the Burns Road Recreation Center.
- Resolution 82, 2018 – Avenir Development, LLC and Avenir Holdings, LLC are requesting approval of an Impact Fee Agreement (‘Agreement’) with the City of Palm Beach Gardens with regards to Avenir PCD’s parks and recreation impact fees. The Agreement establishes a process for the distribution of the project’s required parks and recreation impact fee credits. Specifically, in lieu of paying a portion of the City’s parks and recreation impact fees, the Applicant will dedicate 130 acres of land to the City of Palm Beach Gardens pursuant to Condition of Approval 16 of Resolution 4, 2016. Based on the criteria and evaluation process set forth in the City’s Code, a credit amount of $3,000,000 is being provided. In addition, the Applicant has agreed to clear the dedicated 115-acre civic-recreation site. The Applicant has agreed to a credit in the amount of $287,000. Therefore, the total impact fee credit is $3,287,000.
Items for Council Action/Discussion:
- None listed
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Next City Council Mtg on Nov 1 at 7pm
The next City Council meeting will be on Thursday, Nov. 1st at 7pm in City Hall. Highlights: Avenir 469 unit age-restricted subdivision; Sale of Public Works Property
Consent Agenda includes:
- Resolution 41, 2018 – Lease of Two General Motors (GM) Minotour School Buses from Matthews Bus Alliance, Inc. that will be financed through Leasing 2, Inc. 5 year lease valued at $122K
- Resolution 65, 2018 – Agreement with the Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections (SOE) for Vote Processing Equipment Use and Election Services – contracting for the March 2019 Municipal Election
- Resolution 69, 2018 – Approve a Lease Agreement with the School Board of Palm Beach County for City purposes, including overflow parking for Mirasol Park and the Honda Classic Golf Tournament.
- Resolution 75, 2018 – Agreement between the City of Palm Beach Gardens and the Big Heart Brigade, Inc. for Use of Facilities and Provision of In-Kind Support Services in Implementing the Thanksgiving Feast Event.
- Resolution 76, 2018 – Appoint the Supervisor of Elections, or designee, as an additional member to the City’s Canvassing Board for the March 12, 2019, Municipal Election.
- Purchase Award – Renovation of Baseball Fields at Gardens Park – Openly competed – no option to renew – $106K
City Manager Report: Nothing listed
Public Hearings and Resolutions (not in order):
- Ordinance 24, 2018/Ordinance 25, 2018 – First Hearing – Carl’s Plaza Property voluntary annexation was approved at the October 4th, 2018 City Council Meeting. These two ordinances are primarily an administrative function required pursuant to Chapter 171 , Florida Statutes, that assigns a Commercial land use and General Commercial zoning designation to the parcel.
- Resolution 67, 2018 – The subject petition is a request for a site plan approval for a 469-unit age-restricted single-family residential subdivision on 195 acres within the Avenir PCD. The neighborhood is proposed to be a gated community with a clubhouse parcel and recreational amenities. Staff is recommending approval of the Site Plan.
- Resolution 74, 2018 – Sale of City-Owned Property Located at 3704 Burns Road, Palm Beach Gardens, known as the Public Works Property, to Stor-AII Acquisitions, LLC for $3,800,000. Funds realized from the sale of this property are earmarked for use in the City’s capital improvement projects. On completion of the sale, the City will have until July 2019 to vacate the premises and turn it over to the new owners. The new Public Services Operations Center is scheduled to be completed by June 2019.
- Second Reading and Adoption of Ordinance 19, 2018 (Procedures for governing memorials and monuments) and Ordinance 23, 2018 ( Amending the City of Palm Beach Gardens Budget for the Fiscal Year Beginning October 1, 2017 and Ending September 30, 2018.)
Items for Council Action/Discussion:
- None listed
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Next City Council Mtg on Oct. 4 at 7pm
The next City Council meeting will be on Thursday, Oct. 4th at 7pm in City Hall. Highlights: Direction to City Mgr/Atty regarding Sears (Consent); Policy for Memorials and Monuments on City Property; Signage/Outdoor Displays – Alton; Board Appointments (AIPP, Parks and Rec, PZAB); 2nd reading/adoption Bonnette Hunt Club site plan, Carl’s Plaza annexation.
Consent Agenda includes:
- Resolution 66, 2018 – Delegating full settlement authority in the matter of Sears, Roebuck and Co. vs. Forbes/Cohen Florida Properties, L.P. and City of Palm Beach Gardens
- Purchase Award – Building Automation System for New Public Services Operations Center – sole source – $77K
City Manager Report: Nothing listed
Public Hearings and Resolutions (not in order):
- Ordinance 19, 2018 – First reading – Amending Chapter 78 of the City’s Code of Ordinances in order to provide for the placement of memorials and monuments on City-owned property.
- Resolution 61, 2018 – A request from NADG/Brock LP to allow for limited outdoor display areas in front of Building A (Publix) within the Town Center (Parcel C) of the Alton Planned Community Development (PCD)
- Resolution 64, 2018 – A request for a Miscellaneous petition for Alton Town Center Commercial Retail Project to approve a Sign Program for the project.
- Resolution 53, 2018 – Appointment of Regular and Alternate Members to the Art in Public Places (AIPP) Advisory Board.
- Resolution 54, 2018 – Appointment of Regular and Alternate Members to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board.
- Resolution 55, 2018 – Appointment of Regular and Alternate Members to the Planning, Zoning, and Appeals Board.
- Second Reading and Adoption:
- Ordinance 11, 2018, Ordinance 12, 2018/Resolution 27, 2018 – Carleton Oaks
- Ordinance 13, 2018, Ordinance 14, 2018/Resolution 28, 2018 – Osprey Isles
- Ordinance 15, 2018, Ordinance 16, 2018 – Star of David Cemetery
- Ordinance 17, 2018, Ordinance 18, 2018/Resolution 30 – Northlake Congregate Living Facility
- Ordinance 20, 2018 – Carl’s Plaza Voluntary Annexation
- Ordinance 22, 2018/Resolution 58, 2018 – Bonnette Hunt Club PUD/Rezone
Items for Council Action/Discussion:
- None listed
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Next City Council Mtg and Final Budget Hearing on Thursday 9/20
The next City Council meeting will be on Thursday, Sept. 20th at 7pm in City Hall. Highlights: Final Hearing Fiscal Year 2018/2019 Budget, Amending the 2018 Budget, and Recommendation of Sale for Hilltop Property
Consent Agenda only includes minutes.
City Manager Report: Nothing listed
Public Hearings and Resolutions:
- Resolution 48, 2018 – Adopting a tax levy and millage rate for the City of Palm Beach Gardens for the Fiscal Year commencing October 1, 2018, and ending September 30, 2019 and Ordinance 21, 2018 – Public Hearing for Second and Final Reading Adopting the Fiscal Year 2018/2019 Budget.
- Ordinance 23, 2018 amends the FY 2018 Budget by transferring accumulated fund balance from the Extra Duty Fund to the General Fund, and recording the financial transactions related to the lease purchase of Fire Department vehicles.
- Resolution 60, 2018 – Recommendation for the Sale of City-Owned Property at 9290 Park Lane (Hilltop Property). City Administration seeks guidance from City Council and delegation of authority to the City Manager to execute the Letter of Interest and any subsequent contracts, agreements, or required forms with the interested party that City Council determines has made the best offer for the property, and which offer best serves the current and future needs of the community and the residents of the City of Palm Beach Gardens.
Items for Council Action/Discussion:
- None listed
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City Council Meeting and 1st Budget Hearing on Sept 6th
Elections: Resolution 46, 2018 – declaring the results of the 8/28 Special Election – with final counts for the 3 Referendum Questions
- Resolution 50, 2018 – City applied for and received grant for $250K for Stormwater Maintenance, Repairs and Operation Program.
- Purchase Award – Mowing and Landscaping Services – Streets and Parks – Openly competed – did not choose option to renew – 5 year contract with option to renew for another 5 years – total 5 year contract value $3.7 million.
City Manager Report: Nothing listed
Public Hearings and Resolutions:
- Ordinance 21, 2018 – First hearing of Adopting the Budget for Fiscal Year 2018/2019. The Operational millage remains flat at 5.55 and debt service millage is reduced .0503 for a total millage of 5.6003. Property valuations are up 4.41% over last year. It is the intention to maintain flat operational millage for several years. (Note – this means that as property valuations increase, your property taxes will go up accordingly – at differing rates depending on whether or not you own a homesteaded property).
- Resolution 56, 2018 – A request from Palm Beach County Department of Environmental Resources Management (PBCDERM) for a Major Conditional Use approval to allow various improvements for passive recreation activities and a small public parking lot within a portion of the Loxahatchee Slough Recreation Facility area located off of the Beeline Highway approximately one-mile north of the PGA Boulevard/Beeline Highway intersection.
- Resolution 57, 2018 – A request from PGA Commons 2, LLC and PGA Commons 3, LLC for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Amendment at PGA Commons PUD to allow a new outdoor bar for Spoto’s Restaurant
- Ordinance 20, 2018 – First Reading of a request from 11940 Highway One Realty, LLC for a Voluntary Annexation of a 5.74-acre parcel located on the southeast corner of the intersection of Juno Road and U.S. Highway One approximately 0.5 miles north of the intersection of PGA Boulevard and U.S. Highway One. Most of us know this as Carl’s Plaza; it is in the long-term annexation plan for the City and is currently vacant.
- Ordinance 22, 2018 – First reading of Bonnette Hunt Club – Planned Unit Development (PUD) Rezoning and PUD Site Plan Approval – The Applicant is requesting approval of a PUD Site Plan to accommodate the development of a 24-unit single-family residential subdivision. The property is located on the south side of Hood Road, between Florida’s Turnpike and Jog Road.
Items for Council Action/Discussion:
- None listed
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Next City Council Mtg on August 2nd at 7pm
- Purchase Award – Life Insurance, AD&D, and Long-Term Disability – 3 year contract with option to renew for 3 years – openly bid with estimated annual amount $112K
- Purchase Award – Group Health Insurance Plan (Self-Funded) – Stop Loss Insurance Coverage – annual renewal – but representing a 35.5% increase over last year’s rate, for $579K
- Purchase Award – Group Health Insurance Plan (Self-Funded) – taking option to renew for 3 years, no additional options to renew – $1.045 Million for the 3 years.
- Purchase Award – Property Maintenance Services for Code Compliance – openly competed – 5 year contract total $100K
- Purchase Award – Police SWAT Support Vehicle Unit – Piggyback/Access Contract – $123K
- Purchase Award – Modifications to Johnson Dairy Road (Amendment No. l) – piggyback/access contract – $108K
City Manager Report: Nothing listed
Public Hearings and Resolutions:
- Resolution 37, 2018 – Adopting the Fiscal Year 2018/2019 Fees and Charges Schedule. This schedule includes recommended changes from departments to ensure that fees charged are sufficient to cover the costs of providing services.
- Resolution 38, 2018 – A City-initiated application to submit the One-Year Annual Action Plan to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for Fiscal Year (FY) 2018. The City must submit an Annual Action Plan and application for grant funds that confirm the projects on which the current year’s grant allocation is proposed to be spent during the upcoming year. The City is eligible to receive approximately $221,943 for Fiscal Year (FY) 2018.
- Resolution 44, 2018 – A request from Avenir Holdings, LLC for approval of an amendment to the Avenir PCD to make modifications to the approved parcel configurations, internal roadway network, development standards and conditions of approval.
- Resolution 47, 2018 – Approves an lnterlocal Agreement (Agreement) between the City and Palm Beach County to annex portions of the Northlake Boulevard Right-of-Way (ROW) adjacent to the City’s Municipal Boundary west of the City’s Sandhill Crane Golf Club. This Agreement will authorize the City to provide traffic enforcement and lifesafety services along the entire section of Northlake Boulevard from Grapeview Boulevard at the western boundary of the Avenir PCD to the eastern boundary of Carleton Oaks.
- Resolution 45, 2018 – Aware that several employees are considering leaving the City’s Police Department to join another law enforcement agency, on June 22, 2018, staff requested meeting with the PBA to address this salary issue as quickly as possible. The City and PBA representatives met on July 3, 2018, specifically to open Article 32, Salaries, in the current collective bargaining agreement. During this meeting, the parties successfully reached a Tentative Agreement on a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to amend the Salaries Article, to provide all bargaining unit members a 12 percent salary increase effective the first full pay period following ratification, and to increase the salary ranges for each bargaining unit position. As a result, upon approval and ratification, all bargaining unit members will receive the 6 percent wage increase scheduled for October 1, 2018, under the current contract, plus an additional 6 percent wage increase for a total of 12 percent, starting August 6, 2018, which will be reflected in their paychecks dated August 24, 2018. These salary increases are projected to cost approximately $1,665,000 in FY 2018-2019, and an additional $277,443 in the current year’s Police Department Budget. Because this MOU amends salaries for the last year of the existing contract, there would not be an additional wage increase for FY 2018-2019.
Items for Council Action/Discussion:
- None listed
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